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Buying a foreclosure isn't easy ...

... or cheap. You would think it would be and a few prospective clients of mine have shown interest in buying foreclosed properties that might be available in the Charleston South Carolina real estate market considering the media coverage trumpeting the numbers of homeowners in default on their mortgage loans.

As to the actual numbers, thankfully, foreclosures in the Charleston real estate market are not as plentiful as in many other markets around the country. Certainly, there are some and it is expected that there will be more as some of the more exotic loan products buyers used to finance their home purchase reset to higher rates and subsequent less affordable monthly payments.

Teresa Boardman, a fabulous real estate agent and blogger extraordinaire from St. Paul Minnesota recently wrote a post about how difficult it is to deal with the banks who must dispose of foreclosed property.

It isn't easy. 

"banks do a lousy job selling the real estate they own...you would think they would have a system for liquidating property when they end up owning it. Buyers need to understand that when making an offer in a bank owned property it can take weeks to get the offer presented and then accepted, or rejected.  They don't seem to negotiate offers like other sellers do, they just accept, or reject and wait for a better offer."

Please read, When the bank is the seller.

And the condition is generally deplorable. And an important point, a foreclosed home is generally not as cheap as you might think either. Often times, you will do even better buying a pre foreclosure with a motivated seller.

Published Monday, October 15, 2007 9:36 AM by Howard Arnoff

Comments

# re: Buying a foreclosure isn't easy ...

I agree with you that buying and negotiating with a preforeclosure property owner is a much better way of getting tremendous value.

The question is: How do you get the info on people who may be in trouble with their loans?

Monday, October 15, 2007 2:13 PM by js

# re: Buying a foreclosure isn't easy ...

JS, nice to see you back, it's been a while, I hope you caught the finale on the flip flop in Rivertowne I posted about a week ago.

As to finding out what sellers are in trouble with their loans, there certainly isn't a list on the front page of the newspaper but there are ways to go about it.

First of all, you have to find houses that you like because paying less isn't very advantageous unless you actually like the home. The next step is having your real estate agent look at the history of the listing, days on market, price reductions and various other indications of "motivation" in the MLS. The word motivation is often agent code for a distressed seller.

So the bottom line is you and your real estate agent have to discern which sellers might be in trouble with their loans. Unfortunately, it isn't likely to be in black and white and readily available information.

Monday, October 15, 2007 3:32 PM by Howard Arnoff

# re: Buying a foreclosure isn't easy ...

It would be great if there was a way to check with lenders to see what current lendees are defaulting or late on payments. (For houses that aren't even on the market) I am sure there is some disclosure law or something protecting the lendees though?

I did see the flip flop finale and was surprised that the flipper was lucky enough to escape with that small of a loss!

Tuesday, October 16, 2007 6:44 PM by js

# re: Buying a foreclosure isn't easy ...

JS, they aren't hanging witches in the town square any longer, there is still a bit of privacy. As they might say in New Jersey, fuuuuhhhhhgetttttttttaboutttttit.

The flipper was an idiot but there is still value in the market. You can't make your home in a paper box or tent quite yet or live in a very nice home in Mount Pleasant for the price of a tankful of gas for your SUV.

Tuesday, October 16, 2007 7:35 PM by Howard Arnoff

# re: Buying a foreclosure isn't easy ...

Here in NY you can obtain an LP (Lis Pendens) list which gives most of the information regarding a preforeclosure such as original mortgage amount, how much is presently owed, defendants (current homeowner) name & address.

At this stage the legal proceeding to foreclose has only just begun & a deal can usually be hammered out so long as there is equity there but at this point in the process payoffs can start to get rather messy with many "other" fees tacked on and in most cases if a second mortgage exist on the home it will not be included on the LP list.

Weather or not these lists are available in South Carolina is something I am not sure of but they should be due to the fact that the Lawsuit to foreclose is considered public knowledge.

Up here we use liprofiles.com

Good Luck!

Thursday, October 18, 2007 9:52 PM by Mike

# re: Buying a foreclosure isn't easy ...

Mike, thanks for the helpful information, the key words you said were equity in the house and no second mortgage. If it is a "short" sale, you're back to dealing with the bank.

When I'm speaking pre foreclosure, it is someone who knows they are in trouble and will be much more motivated to sell than the reo dept. seems to be.

Friday, October 19, 2007 5:23 AM by Howard Arnoff
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